The Intersection of Traditional and Digital Methods

Buying Classic Cameras

Selecting a good inexpensive camera

What to look for in an under $200 professional quality camera:

1. A camera designed for medium format or larger negative size would be ideal, but any format can produce fine prints.

2. A good, clear lens and a working shutter (not necessarily correct at all speeds).

3.       Ugly, as in missing leather, poor paint and all the signs of professional use.

4.       Not presently popular.  At any point in time some cameras are more highly desired than others.  Avoid the most popular types or brands, unless they are within your budget.

  Recommendations:

1.        Any working Rolleiflex or Rolleicord.  These are exceptional medium format cameras that use standard 120 film and are presently not highly popular.

2.       A Speed or Crown Graphic with parts missing.  Parts are interchangeable and readily available.  These cameras are available in sizes for 2 ¼ X 3 ¼  up to 5X7.  The 4X5 size is the most popular.  However film is available in all sizes, including 3 ¼ X 4 ¼.

Sources for used camera equipment

Used cameras can be frequently found in the following locations:

1.        Garage Sales –   Many people have at least one old camera sitting around collecting dust. Typically one can find old Argus or Kodak cameras, at extremely low prices. Always ask specifically if they have other photo equipment.  That is how you uncover the more desirable items.  Caution: Some people believe that certain camera brands are more expensive than actual.  It is best to walk away in such situations.

2.       Estate Sales –   If you don’t mind getting up very early and waiting in line, you may find some very good items.  Sales handled by professional companies, will have high prices or will have sold the better items elsewhere.

3.       Camera Stores –  Camera stores usually ask full retail price, but in some cases do not know as much about certain old cameras as you do.  So good deals can be had, sometimes even with a guarantee.

4.       Camera Shows –  These shows take place several times per year in the larger metropolitan areas.  They are an excellent source for equipment.  By paying for early admission you get the best selection at the lowest prices.  Most prices are negotiable.

5.       Antique Stores –  Antique stores tend to be expensive, since many consider anything with a lens to be valuable.

6.       Junk Stores – One of my favorite sources.  Few know the real value of camera equipment

7.       Internet – E-Bay and other internet auction sites are a great source.  Just beware of certain vendors who are known for being deceptive by checking previous sale feedback.

8.       Relatives/Friends -  Let everyone know your interest.  I have gotten many cameras as gifts.

  The bottom line is that cameras are everywhere and it does not hurt to carry a camera price guide with you wherever you go.  

Camera Condition Codes

The following is a typical condition rating system:  
MINT = as new without packing
MINT- =very fine condition showing only the very slightest and
insignificant signs of use
E++ = better than average, signs of use but nice and clean
E+ = average condition, shows normal wear, looks okay
E = well used but not horrible looking
E- = very well used, unattractive
VG = a bargain! ugly but well worth the price
Needless to say, this system is often highly inflated by vendors, so don’t be deceived.  

The following was created in a humorous moment by Milan Zahorcak during a Camera Show several years ago, and subsequently published in the Cascade Panorama.  It is reprinted here with Milan’s permission:  
TERMS

Antique.................older than the dealer
Old.......................as old as the dealer
Early.....................younger than the dealer
Classic..................as old as the dealer's oldest kid
Collectible..............for sale
Modern..................used by the dealer's kid, too complicated to explain
User......................not completely broken
Sophisticated.........too complicated to use, too hard to hold
Ergonomic.............too complicated to use, but easy to hold
Interesting..............ugly
New in the box .....almost new, with a box
New.......................almost new without a box
As new...................used, but sold "as new"
Like new.................used, but not engraved
Mint........................not heavily used or engraved
Ex+++....................not heavily used, may be engraved
Ex+........................heavily used and engraved
Ex......................... still recognizable as a camera
Ex-.........................no longer recognizable as a camera
Very good..............may not be a camera
C10........................anything Ex or above
C9 or less..............anything below Ex
Unusual.................ugly 
Uncommon............one of the few the dealer has left
Acquire..................to pay way too much, see also "temporary insanity"
Naylem..................to acquire at auction by simply leaving one's hand up
the entire time
Floggoff..................to sell something awful with shame or remorse
Scarf......................to snatch up a great piece for almost nothing
Find.......................to pay less than you expected
Buy.......................to pay more than you expected
Steal......................see "scarf," unless you actually did steal it
Temporary insanity....a purchase wich results in instant regrets, see also “acquire”
Stanhopeless...........to search for, to no avail
Repairable.........................broken
Restorable.........................badly broken
Restored............................cleaned by dealer
Brassing............................worn out
Ding...................................bashed repeatedly
Cleaning marks....................any scratch, gouge, or chip in the lens
Fungus..............................mushrooms growing between elements
Hazy, foggy........................lens cleaned with steel wool and abrasives
Inop...................................badly broken
Sluggish............................something moves, but not in a useful manner
CATCH PHRASES
Daguerrean equipment.............any wooden camera, pre-1900
dry-plate camera.....................any other wooden camera
wet-plate camera.....................any other wooden camera found in the
Pacific Northwest
Museum piece........................owned by the dealer's parents
Early Polaroid..........................film no longer available
Collectible Polaroid................... a lie
Leica copy...............................not a wooden camera


Price Information  

There are a number of excellent sources for price information:

1.        McKeowns -  This is one of the best price guides available. The cost is about $125.
It is available directly form Centennial Photo Service, 11595 State Rd 70,  Grantsburg, WI 54840.   Some libraries have it.

Mckeown’s Law:

“The price of an antique camera

Is entirely dependent on the

Moods of the buyer and seller

At the time of the transaction.”

2.       Camprice.com -  This is an internet site that continually updates prices.  It is a subscription service.

3.       McBroom’s -  This guide is primarily for modern professional equipment.


Contact: Mike E. Bergen

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